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. and michael shure of course was in the "war room" in san francisco. and david shuster is in kentucky. what is happening there, david? >> first of all the republicans are complaining about debate moderator martha raddatz saying that she was somehow unfair which i think is a good sign that they don't believe that their guy did very well. but body language republicans had the same body language the democrats had last week. david axelrod said you cannot deny that joe biden handily won this debate. this was fact and conviction versus ryan's glib lines and empty promises. axelrod said it was at one point watching a principal discipline a student. one of the republicans we spoke with teaches media training to other republicans about how important style and form is. he only wanted to talk about substance. and when we asked him, this is all about style and to enas you guys said last week. and he said maybe people are going to be put off by mitt romney laughing. and obviously republicans are trying to put up a good face but even they rick nice vice president biden cleaned pau
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